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    Right i been making floats for some time now ,freehand[lathe] ,hand held formers[lathe] and getting bodies made to my specs/designs all of which i enjoy immensely...

    I thought it about time i made some steps in getting a copier for my lathe sorted...
    So got some blue prints which can be downloaded for free on this FB links page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Andys-...06067396169253 .....

    Ok so wot, get it done lol lol well i found a few people who do that sort of thing[toolmakers] had a few quotes back lol lol lol now they knocked me flat, cheapest was 1,200 euros for a copier im well stressed double what the lathe cost new ......Still moving forward ive asked a few friends via via and will see what comes out of that however in the mean time i have been looking at CNC lathes or conversion kits for my own.......

    So my question is!!!! do any of u float makers actually use CNC to turn float bodies with? If u do perhaps u would like to share some of the pitfalls if there are any with me/us!!

    Getting my designs or any design into CAD and or MACH 3 for example isnt a problem i dont think .... From what you tube is telling me with a few very easy steps u can convert a drawing from lets say a float catalogue into photoshop then CAD and then into something like mach 3 so copying any float any size or shape would be real ..http://www.cncinformation.com/index....tpage&Itemid=1

    Also this link maybe of interest to those with emco unimat lathes havnt found a kit for mine yet.....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unimat-3-4-L...item2c6bc190c8 personally much cheaper than a copier i also have my suspicions that once u get ur pic into CAD more versatile as well!!

    http://youtu.be/O5-Vy5w86Tg
    So anyone using or has used CNC in relationship to float making?
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    Does anyone have some experience with CNC perhaps not related to float making! Why? Well i can get mach 3 for free but it has a 500 line limit on it and was wondering if that was enough to do a float with....? anyone! thnx

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    I can ask my mate, he program's, installs and repairs cnc woodworking machinery. He's been doing it for years and travels all over Europe and America keeping machines moving

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    yes please!!

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    I'm having a cnc machine made for me and I have a copier on my lathe at the mo

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    Quote Originally Posted by diddly-squatt View Post
    I'm having a cnc machine made for me and I have a copier on my lathe at the mo
    Diddly,

    When you say copier. Can it do other things? I have a project coming up which needs cnc work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diddly-squatt View Post
    I'm having a cnc machine made for me and I have a copier on my lathe at the mo
    Nice one! u getting cnc put on ur lathe or u getting a complete new machine? What's the price tag on the CNC roughly? loads of kits out there ........Also what size lathe u getting CNC,d?

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    That little lathe is a proper job..

    Out of interest, how long does it take you to made a body without CNC? Will it really save you any time? It's not like you can chuck a length of dowel in and leave it auto feeding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by luke carpstalker View Post
    That little lathe is a proper job..

    Will it really save you any time? It's not like you can chuck a length of dowel in and leave it auto feeding.
    Exactly!!!!!!! I think the amount of time gained will be minimal... Watching CNC u tube videos though shows me that there is no way a human can move them little handels that fast, hey but do they need too!!!!...Where i do think something is to be gained is in patterns,shapes or forms..
    For example all the shapes that i have seen for the normal copier ,that is generally used, are mechanically cut cnc.
    I have heard of people cutting them them selves however i would like to see a whole series of them first .. I know from personal experience that that aint as easy as they say it is.. OK one! but a whole series?????With some shapes u only need one or two moulds to get a float set also in the UK float series's often comprise of 2/3 but not here,....... Anyway thats where i think something is to be gained...
    The biggest one is in the cost! Like it would cost me 1200 euros to get one made[copier] without moulds.. i can buy a new lathe with cnc on it for less than that! If i can get a conversion kit sorted for my lathe then a quarter of the price..
    Still not out looking into motor strength and size in respect to life expectancy ATM!!
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    Getting a new machine made with an auto feed. Therefore bodies will be cut and the hole for the stem or bristle will be drilled. I have some equipment I've made to do second op drilling. My neighbour owns his own cnc engineering business so he's gonna show me how to do things right. His family used to make floats for Shaky's years back and he reckons a float body can be cut and drilled in 6 to 10 seconds. He also put me right with paints and sealers etc.
    It will make loads of bodies quickly and then all I have to do is the painstaking job of sealing and painting etc.

    Ronald at the mo I can't do other projects as my lathe won't allow it and I haven;t the time sorry.

    Price wise it's cost me 5000 grand uptil now and I've still got a few payments to finish off like the cnc software which is about 400 - 500.
    There is a commercially available cnc machine for float making but I can't find the name of it but they are 20000 brand new. This info came from a commercial float manufacturer and he wouldn't divulge the name of maker.
    There are many factors that need to be looked at if you're going for a lathe conversion such as feed rates, right rpm etc ,believe me I've really looked into it and it ain't as easy to do as you think.

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